Wednesday, September 30, 2015

Presbyterians Slide Further Into the Abyss

Some of my readers will be shocked to learn that these photos were taken at the Presbyterian Church in Minneapolis.  In the church we find a table that reads "THREE SACRED TEXTS" and as we draw back to see what those texts are, we find the Muslim Koran placed right in the middle taking up the largest position!  The Jewish Tanakh in Hebrew is on the left and the Bible is on the right.

Of course the Methodists, ELCA Lutherans and most Catholics would probably look at this photo and say, "I don't see a problem?"


Let's revisit basic Muslim theology;
The Koran and all Muslims who follow it says that Abraham had a son named Ishmael and he took that son to the top of the mountain to sacrifice him to Allah.  In fact just a few days ago they celebrated this "willingness of Abraham" in their holy day, Eid al Adha.

The Bible tells us that Abraham had a son named Isaac with his wife Sarah and repeats it three times that Isaac is the "Son of Promise" that God will work his salvation through.  Abraham took Isaac up the mountain to sacrifice him.  Of course Isaac is the father of the Jews.  The Bible goes on to say that Ishmael will be a "jack-ass of a man" and will constantly be in turmoil with his brothers and the rest of the world.  Ishmael is the father of the Arab people.


If you said the Koran is lying then you would be right!!

"But Dennis, I think they are both telling the they can both be sacred texts!"

Ummmmm.....basic logic says that if two books contradict each other telling the same story, ONE OF THEM HAS TO BE LYING.

The Koran is full of lies and was written over 700 years after Christianity had spread over the entire Middle East.  Satan simply couldn't stand the fact that Christ's kingdom on earth was advancing so he called to Muhammad who happened to be an illiterate, violent, pedophile and said, "Hey Muhummad...come here and listen....I have a plan for you...."


Of course this shouldn't surprise us.  It should sadden the true followers of Christ and those who believe in the Bible....but it shouldn't surprise us.

Hat tip to Julie E.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

To be fair, you should probably be more specific in your reference to "Presbyterian Church" (like you did with ELCA before Lutheran). For example, there are major differences between PC USA and PCA (Presbyterian Church in America). The latter is rock solid, holding to all the historic basics of Christianity (e.g. Bible inspired by God and without error, Jesus fully God and fully man, literal 6 day creation, bodily return of Christ, etc.).

September 30, 2015 at 3:46 PM  
Blogger kpow said...

Hi, Dennis. Correction...abraham is the father of the nation of Israel...all 12 tribes.:)

September 30, 2015 at 3:47 PM  
Blogger dennis said...

Agreed! Why what did I say? Abraham is the father of Isaac (the son of promise), Isaac is the father of Jacob and Jacob is the father of the 12 sons who became the 12 tribes of Israel.

October 1, 2015 at 10:15 AM  
Blogger dennis said...

Hi Anonymous,
thanks for pointing out the difference in Presbyterian denominations. I am TOTALLY unfamiliar with them since I was raised ELCA I am more familiar with the rifts and splits between those who claim the name of Luther. So yes, I should have said that the Koran displayed is at the Westminster Presbyterian church in Mpls....and I have NO IDEA if they are PC USA or PCA...but guessing if you say the PCA is rock solid, then Westminster must be PC USA as clearly they have fallen into the abyss of delusion.

October 1, 2015 at 10:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only those who believe in Christ, the promise given to Abraham, can call Abraham their father so to speak. Abraham is not the "father of the (modern day) nation of Israel."

Galatians 3:7 Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. 8 Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.” 9 So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Romans 4:13 It was not through the law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith. 14 For if those who depend on the law are heirs, faith means nothing and the promise is worthless, 15 because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression.

16 Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham’s offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who have the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all. 17 As it is written: “I have made you a father of many nations.” He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed—the God who gives life to the dead and calls into being things that were not.

18 Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed and so became the father of many nations, just as it had been said to him, “So shall your offspring be."

October 1, 2015 at 10:37 AM  
Blogger kpow said...

My mistake i should have said "correction, Isaac is father to all 12 tribes not just the Jews.

October 1, 2015 at 3:32 PM  
Blogger kpow said...

Thats right anonymous...heres another ...Num. 15:15,16-As for the congregation, there shall be one statute both for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you, a statute for ever throughout your generations; as ye are, so shall the stranger be before the LORD. 16One law and one ordinance shall be both for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.
Cool right!?

October 1, 2015 at 4:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's right kpow, all those who have faith in Christ, who is the true offspring of Abraham (Gal. 3:16), receive forgiveness of sins and are saved. It has absolutely nothing to do with ethnicity (i.e. Jew or non-Jew), for God does not show favoritism to any man (Acts 10).

Now, if the dispensational folks would wake up and learn how to read the Scriptures (OT) the way Jesus instructed his disciples to (Luke 24), Christianity in America would be more biblical and united. :)

October 9, 2015 at 11:47 AM  
Blogger dennis said...

That's comical Anonymous...right back at you:
"Now if the preterist folks would wake up and learn how to read the Scriptures (OT) the way Jesus instructed his disciples to (Luke 24), Christianity in America would be more biblical and united." :)

We do agree on the fact that faith in Christ has NOTHING to do with ethnicity.

What I don't understand is how you can continue to be so clueless about Israel being the focus of the entire world...just as the Bible said it would be before Christ returns.

October 9, 2015 at 2:29 PM  

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